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MODELING DETAILS-SOUTHERNReference Source: http://www.hosam.com/srr/srr.htmlSouthern Check Digits08/23/98 SEMRA listNot sure if I can make this simple but here goes:Southern used A, F, H, J, K, L, R, T, W & X on their engines.let us assign numbers to the above digits A 0, F 1, H 2, J 3, K 4, L 5,R 6,T 7, W 8 AND X 9.Take the engine number say 3971 which is an X.Add first number to 2 times the second number plus the third number plus 2 times the fourth number.3 (2*9) 7 (2*1) now this won’t work if the formula is applied straight away. If any result such as (2*9) which is18 then you use the two digits in 18 as 1 8. Now the formula becomes 3 (1 8) 7 2 21. WE are not there yet.You subtract the answer from the next larger even number in units of 10. In this example this would be 30-21 9 ORX.Another example might be engine 701 which is a J. Since there are only 3 digits simply put a zero in front. Thiswill give 0 (2*7) 0 (2*1) 0 (1 4) 0 (2) 7 10-7 3 which is J.ATLAS HIGH-HOOD GP-38'SGuys, I was just looking over one of the new Atlas GP-38HH models and I noticed a detail part that was missingfrom the shell and one that some of you may want to add. The part that I'm referring to is the toilet water fill hatchwhich is found on either side of the short hood of most all SOUTHERN locomotives.Poop chute (SMRF term), part 24 in all Cannon Hi-Hood kits, look and I'll bet you didn't install them! Don't forgetthe label just above them. And that's the fireman’s side of the short hood.Referring to my SOUTHERN books and my photo collection, I see that the GP-38's (and AC’s) that had this featurealways located on the left side of the short hood. Not all my photos show this hatch so if you want to leave it off,you can do so and still be prototypical.GP-38 & 38AC's were usually on fireman’s side of short hood. GP-38-2's were generally on the engineers side ofshort hood. Let me offer you a suggestion as to how to add this part and even how to add it to decorated models.

Go to your favorite art or engineering supply store and purchase an engineer's drawing template.mine is made byTemplate Designs, part no. TD 422.On this template is a series of squares and one of them is the correct size for the water hatch. You may have to trimthe template to use it, but be sure to leave a square side so as to be able to line up the cuts you are about to make.Lay the template on the short hood and scribe the outline of the square onto the model. Now drill a series of smallholes within the lines of this square and remove this portion of the plastic.Trim the edges VERY, VERY carefully to get a tight fit and file smooth with any small files you may have on hand.Please take your time trimming the square by cutting once, fitting twice. After you are satisfied with your fit, paintthe hatch, let dry and secure with your choice of cement. Don't forget to add a sand filler on short hood after fillingin the hole left by moving the bell to long hood end.How about the fuel filters under the walkway on fireman’s side just after the notch? Renumber to 2741 and youwon't have to fiddle with the fuel tanks! Renumber 2803 to 2879, add spark arresters and the "John A. Chambliss"under fireman’s window, install the "poop chute" up a bit higher than the 2741.And last of all don't forget to move the "F" from the short end to the long end, and turn the engineer around so he'sfacing the right way. This was a retro-fit, and the as delivered units did not have this hatch. Those modeling newlydelivered units in the late 1960s and early to mid-1970s would not need this part. It appeared that Southern beganadding these in late 1970s-early 1980s time frame.Warren CallowaySOUTHERN CABOOSESLet's take a stab at the Southern steel caboose.In 1941 and '42 the Southern built a number of steel, bay-window cabooses at the Spartanburg shops from old stockcars and drop bottom gons. These were 38' and numbered X2282-2929. They had rounded rear roof corners. From'48-51 new all-steel bay window cabooses were built: X3139-3270. Some of these were rebuilt in '52 with weldedsides. The X6868 series -- still 38' -- was built in '51 onward.All of these critters look 'about' the same. You can fake an Athearn the hard way or the easy way. Easy, slice thebay-window roof to about 60 degrees, cement on a flat hunk of styrene and call it a night. You can replace thewalkways, making the floor square all around, as opposed to Athearn’s indented steps -- and apply box-style steps.Check Walthers, somebody makes a white metal part that works with minimum filing. You can fabricate new sidesout of styrene to get the window spacing correct. SRR cabooses have four evenly spaced, even sized windows perside, plus three in the bay. Then get one round porthole per end, cover the existing end and you're kinda close.Microscale makes the decals on a minisheet, if memory serves.The Walthers bay-window caboose is really a better starting place. It's closer to the right length, the bay roof isokay, the side windows are wrong, the steps are closer, but the indent on the end platforms is wrong again.Somebody knows better, but I think the Athearn bay is based on a SP prototype. I use it for my own road, becauseit's really close to a second run of bay-window cabooses the P&LE bought. But I do pretend, er, proto-freelancing.I love the Southern, it's Alexandria Union Station is just a mile from my driveway, but I model the NYC and it's kincirca 63. There are reference books out there, go get'em.Bernie Halloran

Southern Railway Subsidiary Cabooses (late-60s to late-80s)Numbers Road Type NotesX4-X97 C.G. wood cupola caboose - new (which numbers?)X90 C.G. wood cupola caboose - new, rptd. S.R.X10-X15 INT. wood cupola caboose - new (not all carried "X" after merger).X16 INT. wood cupola caboose - ex-N.&W.X20-X21 INT. wood cupola caboose - ex-DL&W. 614, 670.X25-X35 CR&N. bay window caboose - new. (one # skipped?).X65-X67 G&F. steel cupola caboose - new?X70-X71 TA&G. bay window caboose - acquired 1961, ex-S.R.X122 GAS&C. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. (ex-3122?)X153 GA.No. bay window caboose - ex-S.R. (ex-3153?)X251-X253 S&A. steel cupola caboose - new.X255-X256 S&A. steel cupola caboose - ex-Reading (?).X258-X259 Tenn. bay window caboose - ex-209-210, ex-S.R.(309) A&EC. bay window caboose - retired late-60s.X400 SR/CG. bay window caboose - new, Southern Iron & Equip. 6/69.X485 SR/CG. bay window caboose - new, Gantt 1970.X515 SR/CG. bay window caboose - new, Gantt 11-70.X592 SR/CG. bay window caboose - new, Gantt 9-71.X600 GS&F. bay window caboose - ex-X8543.X2912 G&F. bay window caboose - round roof, ex-S.R.X2919 CG. bay window caboose - round roof, ex-S.R.X2924 A&N. bay window caboose - round roof, ex-S.R.X3099 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3118 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3136 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3149 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3151 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3156 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R., sold to P.C./CR. 18439.X3169 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3172 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R., sold to P.C./CR. 18441.X3201 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3227 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3265 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3291 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X3312 CG. bay window caboose - ex-S.R.X6060-X6068 AGS. bay window cabooseX6895 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-NO&NE.X6900 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-NO&NE.X6905 G&F. bay window caboose - ex-NO&aInformation from Jerry M. LaBoda 08/20/01

WALKWAY LIGHTSSouthern Railway had walkway lights on their units. These were mounted on the side of the hood near the roof toilluminate the locomotive's walkways and I think SR is the only railroad that used them. In the past when I was inSeattle I have used fairly expensive brass castings that came from a small manufacturing source. Does anyone makethese things in plastic? At a lower cost?Alton LanierDetails West has had these for some time now. Part #172, 8 for 1.25. You will have to fab a bracket for someapplications but in many cases just clip the post and CA to side of unit.HOGSHEAD TOBACCO CARSA couple of observations on the Southern Tobacco Hogsheads cars, as modeled by Ambroid and Quality Craft (isthe Quality Craft kit a re-issue of the Ambroid 1 of 5000?). The cars as delivered in 1963 were lettered in the thencurrent Southern block lettering - 24" SOUTHERN, 16" road #, 12" motto "SUPER CUSHION SERVICE" in whiteon a SR freight car red body.The large "SOUTHERN" and road number were centered to left of door, the motto "super cushion service" wascentered to the right of the door, each word above the next. Over the years, these cars received all the variations ofmodern era Southern freight car lettering schemes, including the "SOUTHERN gives a green light to innovations"scheme with green inside the "O" in SOUTHERN, 1980-era "thin block lettering", post-1982 Southern "N&Wstyle" rounded Gothic, and a few have actually gotten the full NS image retaining SR reporting marks. All letteringhas always been white. Car body color changed from the more reddish SR freight car red early on to a morebrownish hue by 1982.The NS repaints got the same darker brown that is current on NS house cars. I don't know about the Quality Craftkit, but the Ambroid car came with decals for the as-delivered scheme, along with a well-done lettering diagram. I'munaware of other decals for this car.The Ambroid kit of this car is modeled with a roll-up door. This door was discarded early on as a maintenanceheadache and was replaced by a plug door of Southern design that is basically flat plate with 2 stiffeners and easyto model. All these cars were modified with the plug door by the Southern. Most still retain the green skylights also,which are a translucent fiberglass material. These cars are universally referred to on the Southern and successor NSas "tobacco barns".There are about 25 or so of the hip-roof tobacco barns still in service, although changes in the tobacco industry andthe containerization of international shipping have largely taken them out of tobacco service now. The remainingcars in this area are serving in rubber truck tire service from Goodyear in Danville, VA to points all over the US.The 40-year FRA lifetime limit on underframes on cars in interchange service will soon sideline these interestingand distinctive cars. If you're interested in seeing them in service, come to Danville, VA, but don't tarry, as changehappens. A few will almost always be found in the old NF&D yard east of the passenger station, which is used forempty car holding for Goodyear. You might also get lucky and see one in your local area. I'm told a lot of trafficfrom Goodyear goes through Conway, PA to points throughout the N.E. US.Bob Graham

PASSENGER TRAIN CONSISTSHOSAM, here’s a consist for your info. Will send some more later when I have more time.Southerner, Train 47, New York to New Orleans, arrivingN.O., Mar 18, 1947SOU 2802 E-6ASOU 705 Bedford Bag-dorm-coachSOU 806 Huntsville CoachSOU 804 Georgia CoachSOU 3302 Virginia DinerSOU 801 Maryland CoachSOU 808 Sheffield CoachSOU 1102 Louisiana tavern Lounge Observation carMore later if you want.Jim MurrieHere's some more. These are from Robert Wayner's book "Passenger Train Consists 1923-1973". I got mylocal library to borrow it on a inter-library loan. Mine actually came from the State Historical Society ofWisconsin of all places! It's about 95 pages of consists. Skyland Special, Sou train 24, Jacksonville toAsheville, departing Savannah on Mar 10, 1946:SOU 1253SOU 406SOU 4056SOU 697SOU 1646SOU 1631McCainPoint LaySou 14144-6-2 steamBag-Exp carBag-ExpBag-coachCoachCoach12 sec - 1 drawing room10 sect - 2 drawing roomsCoach--------Crescent, train 37, New York to New Orleans, departingLynchburg, VA Jan 16, 1940SOU 1395SOU 31W.C.C.Park RoadAndrew PickensSOU 3170Canonbury TowerWilliam DavidsonWinthrop CollegeZebulon B. VanceRobert E Lee4-6-2 steampostal carClaiborne bag-buffet-club car14 sections10 sec - 1 drawing room - 2dbl bed rmdiner8 sec - 1drawing rm - 3dbl bed rm8 sec - 5 dbl bd rm10 sec - 1 compart - 2 drawing rm10 sec - 2 drawing rm3 compart - 2 draw rm - lounge observationTennessean, tr. 45, Washington to Memphis, departing Wash.DC on 1/11/47

SOU 2912E-7ASOU 2907E-7ASOU 22postalSOU 349Bag-expSOU 703Cleveland bag-dorm-coachSOU 1200coachSOU 1547coachSOU 904 LoudoncoachSOU 3303 Chattanooga dinerSOU 812 Charlottesville coachSOU 807 BuntyncoachSOU 1152 Memphis tavern-lounge-obsJames W. Sloss12sec-1 drawing rmJennings12 sec - 1 draw rmVilla Verde10 sec - 3 dbl br-----------------------------------New Yorker, SOU tr. 40, Atlanta to New York, departingAtlanta Jan 13, 1948SOU 2914E7ASOU 2915E7APRR 6288bag.N&W 134bag-expSOU 272bag-mailPRR 7838bag-expSOU 660bag-coachSOU 1203coachSOU 1005coachSOU 3163dinerGeneral Longstreet10 sec - loungeRobert Toombs10sec - 2 dr rmLake Mitchell10 sec -1 dr rm- 2 Crescent, tr 37, New York to New Orleans, departingWashington on Apr 9, 1968SOU 6913E-8ASOU 2924E-8ASOU 2920E-7ASOU 1750 Decaturbag-mail storage carSOU 837coachSOU 3399coachSOU 3789coachSOU 815coachSOU 821coachSOU 2010 Rapidan River 10 rmt-6 dbrSOU 3307dinerSOU 2023 Warrior River 10rmt-6dbrPRR 8355 Patapsco River 10rmt-6dbrSOU 2353 Crescent Shores 1master room-2 dr rm-buffet-loungeSOU 2019 Tugalo River 10rmt-6dbrSOU CarolinaBusiness carSOU VirginiaBusiness rn Crescent, train1, Washington to New Orleans,departing Atlanta 11/26/72SOU 6903E-8A

SOU 6912E-8ASOU 6904E-8ASOU 711bag-dormSOU 816caochAmtrak 5602coachSOU 840coachSOU 821coachSOU 2012 Saluda River10rmt-6dbrSOU 3400 Emory River10rmt-6dbrSOU 2008 Pacolet River 10rmt-6dbrSOU Shenandoah River10rmt-6dbrSOU 3311dinerSOU 1602dome parlor carSOU 6business s it Sam, hope you like it. My eyes are getting kind of crossed so there may be typos. If some car doesn'tmatch a name or number you have we can try to sort it out. Jim MurrieRS3 MARKER LAMPS03/06/01Guys, Now that we've picked up more list members since I asked this question earlier, I'd now like to see if someonenew can answer my question for me. I'd like to know how the class lights work on an RS-3 locomotive. Are therethree colored lenses on each fixture or are the three lenses clear and are turned on the fixture to display the propertrain class?Thanks for your help,Bob Harpe03/06/01I too have "longed" to know about these class lights and especially the colors. From my research, this is what I havefound.A few years back I bought a book titled SIGNAL LIGHTS by David Dreimiller and for the life of me cannotremember how or where I got it. Anyway, on page 61 a section begins on Pyle National Electric Marker Lamps andcontinues with Classification Lamps. These lamps look like the little class lights found on RS-3, S-2's and otherearly generation diesels of Southern.The book indicates the lamps were electric and have four lenses which are held in by rubber gaskets. The "ballshaped" fixture holding the lenses is secured by a small hold-down bolt. The bolt passes through this fixturedownward to the electric base socket (which is how it's mounted to the hood.) "Color changes were made byloosening this bolt and rotating the top assembly."Now comes the confusing part. On one page a caption under a picture reads " lamp shown here is fitted withgreen and red lenses". On the next page, the text continues "Classification lamps were attached to the front of thelocomotive. Most classification lamps provided only two indications, one to the front and one to the side. Althoughmost featured some method of changing the color of the lenses displayed, the standard colors used were white andgreen."

It continues further with "As with marker lamps, the combination of lenses displayed was dependent on the purposeof the train and was dictated by the railroad's rule book. For example, extra trains typically displayed classificationlamps showing white lenses to both the front and the side”.As I said, this is confusing as to what color should be modeled. This hasn't really answered the question, and isprobably more than anyone wanted to know (or read) about this. I'd appreciate more info on thisas I'm modeling the late '50's in what I call the "green years" and love them RS-3's!!! On Geeps, I'm just using clearor white lenses as that is what it looks like in all pictures.Mike Garber03/07/01Found a close up shot of a Southern/CNO&TP RS3. Marker definitely has three lens. Will make print and scan.Also had some small levers/handles used the change the color of the marker.Warren Calloway

"F" Unit Horns 1950-60's06/16/01 SMRF listI looked over a large number of photos and slides I have of Southern F's in service today. All I have looked at so farthrough the late 70's have some reversed chimes in their five chime Nathan horn cluster. The SR F-unit pictureswith all five chimes pointing forward were taken in the 80's of the four final FP7's used in excursion and office cartrain service. In the early 80's these four FP7's had their horns changed from the original cord operated straightpneumatic horn system to the sander-type switch operated electro-pneumatic system used on most later SR roadswitchers. Possibly this may have been when the chimes may have been reconfigured all facing forward or possiblyreplaced with a new horn cluster with all chimes facing forward.Ben Lee

GP7 Fuel Tank Data197ASROA FIRSMid2WATEOWNER BUILS/G D/BNOTESD# T#1950s CARTPO/N B/N82108210GS&F82138213800gal800gal800 YE1040NOgal. Sgal10984606May850109878216 1061200gal1200gal1200NO NOgal.500Jul12068450CGB/DCG1200gal1200gal1200NO NOgalRetiredprior al1100gal110YE11000NOSgalgal.Air tanks 505 9661- Mayon roof99663 518221- 1248229 132CG1200gal1200gal1200NO NOgal.14479 04/51511814488 05/518230 406A&EC800gal800gal800NO NOgal.629May145719518231- 7018234 704G&F1200gal1200gal1200NO NOgal.11091606Sep950110941078217- 1208220 1237057068235- 7058236 707G&F1200gal1200gal1200NO NOgalRetiredprior &G1200gal1200gal1200NO NOgal.14569630Apr35114570

1201200g 1200g0NO NOalalgal.630Aug147403518238- 2063SOU8244 2069800gal800gal800NO NOgal.17675648Jan553176818245 2070 SOU800gal800gal1500NO NOgal.Modified648Jancapacity17682553at Spencer8246 2071 SOU800gal800gal800NO NOgal.648Jan176835538237 708TA&G2072 SOU800gal800gal800NO NOgal.Retiredprior to8200648Janseries17684553numberassignment.8247- 2073SOU8248 2074800gal800gal800NO NOgal.17685648Jan553176862075 SOU800gal1600gal1600NO NOgal.Modifiedcapy atSpencer- 648Jan17687Ret prior 553to 8200series #s8249- 2076SOU8250 2077800gal800gal800NO NOgal.17688648Jan553176898251- 2156SOU8260 2165800gal800gal800 YE1040NOgal. Sgal8261 2166 SOU800gal800gal800NO NOgal.2167 SOU800gal800gal800NO NOgal.2159,2161,2164 un13470751Retiredprior to8200series511Jun13471751

numberassignment.8262- 2168SOU8269 2173800gal800gal800NO NOgal.13472511Jun751134778269 2174 SOU800gal1500gal800NO NOgalModified511Juncapacity13478751at Spencer8269 2175 SOU800gal1500gal1500NO NOgal.Modified511Juncapacity13479751at Spencer8270 2176 SOU800gal1500gal800NO NOgalModified511Juncapacity13480751at Spencer8271 2177 SOU800gal1500gal1500NO NOgal.Modified511Juncapacity13481751at Spencer8272- 2178SOU8273 2179800gal800gal800NO NOgal.13482511Jul751134838274 2180 SOU800gal1500gal800NO NOgal.Modified511Maycapacity13484751at Spencer8275- 2181SOU8277 520Sep85216503520Sep165048522184 dprior to8200series #s8278 2185 prior to520Sep165068522186 SOU800gal

8200series #s8279- 2187SOU8285 520Sep852165098282- 2190SOU8285 2193800gal800gal800YENOgalS16510520Sep852165132194 SOU800gal800gal800YENOgalSRetiredprior to8200520Sepseries16514852numberassignment.8286- 2195SOU8287 2196800gal800gal800YENOgalS16515520Sep852165168288 2197 NO&NE800gal800gal800NO NOgal.648Jan176745536200- CNO&T 8006201 Pgal800galRetiredprior to820010146800 YE603AprNO 800 gal seriesgal S250number10147assignment.8289- 6202- CNO&T 8008290 6203 Pgal800gal800 YENO 800 galgal. S10148603Apr250101498291- 6204- CNO&T 8008292 6205 Pgal800gal800 YENO 800 galgal. S10977603Apr250109788293- 6240- CNO&T 8008297 6244 Pgal800gal800 YENO 800 galgal S17669649Jan053176738298- 6540AGS8299 6541800gal800gal800 YENO 800 galgal S10979606May750109806542 AGS800gal800galRetired800 YENO 800 gal prior togal S8200-606May10981750

seriesnumberassignment.8300 6543 AGS6544 AGS800gal.800gal.800gal.800 YENO 800 galgal S606May10982750800gal.Retiredprior to8200800 YE606MayNO 800 gal series10983gal S750numberassignment. Warren CallowaySOUTHERN PASSENGER TRAINSfrom the April 30, 1967 SRWY timetable w/E8 #6908 on coverTHE CRESCENT Daily#37 Southbound #38 NorthboundFrom Boston, Ma. to New York via NYNH&HFrom NY to Washington, DC via the PRRFrom DC to Atlanta, Ga. via the SOUFrom Atlanta, Ga. to Montgomery, Al. via the WPRFrom Montgomery, AL. to New Orleans via the L&N

THE SOUTHERNER Daily#47 Southbound 348 NorthboundFrom Boston, Ma. to New York via NYNH&HFrom NY to Washington, DC via the PRRFrom DC to New Orleans via the SOUTHE PEACH QUEEN Daily#29 Southbound #36 NorthboundFrom Boston, Ma. to New York via NYNH&HFrom NY to Washington, DC via the PRRFrom DC to Atlanta, Ga. via the SOUTHE PIEDMONT LIMITED Daily#35 Southbound 334 NorthboundFrom Boston, Ma. to New York via NYNH&HFrom NY to Washington, DC via the PRRFrom DC to Salisbury, Nc. via the SOU

THE ASHEVILLE SPECIAL Twice Daily#37-15 & 47-15 Southbound #16-38 NorthboundFrom Boston, Ma. to New York via NYNH&HFrom NY to Washington, DC via the PRRFrom DC to Asheville, Nc. via the SOUTHE CAROLINA SPECIALDaily #1-28(SC train)1-28-22(NC Train)Southbound #27-2(NC Train) -27-2(SC Train) NorthboundFrom Chicago, Il. to Cincinnati, Oh. via the NYCFrom Chicago, Il. to Cincinnati, Oh. via the PRRFrom Detroit to Toledo, Oh. via the C&OFrom Toledo, Oh. to Cincinnati, Oh. via the B&OFrom Cincinnati, Oh. to Coloumbia, SC via the SRR(SC train)From Asheville, NC to Greensboro, Nc. via the SRR(NC train)THE BIRMINGHAM SPECIAL Daily

#17 Southbound #18 NorthboundFrom NY to Washington, DC via the PRRFrom DC to Lynchburg, Va. via the SOUFrom Lynchburg, Va. to Bristol, Tn. via the N&WFrom Bristol, Tn. to Birmingham, Al. via the SOUTHE PELICAN Daily #41 Southbound #42 NorthboundFrom Boston, Ma. to New York via NYNH&HFrom NY to Washington, DC via the PRRFrom DC to Lynchburg, Va. via the SOUFrom Lynchburg, Va. to Bristol, Tn. via the N&WFrom Bristol, Tn. to Meridian, Ms. via the SOUFrom Meridian, Ms. to Shreveport, La. via the ICFrom Shreveport, La. to New Orleans via the SOUTHE PELICAN-TENNESSEAN Daily#41-45 Southbound #46-42 NorthboundFrom Boston, Ma. to New York via NYNH&H

From NY to Washington, DC via the PRRFrom DC to Lynchburg, Va. via the SOUFrom Lynchburg, Va. to Bristol, Tn. via the N&WFrom Bristol, Tn. to Memphis, Tn. via the SOUCENTRAL of GEORGIA RAILWAY Daily#20-9 Southbound #10-19 NorthboundFrom Atlanta, Ga. to Albany, Ga. via the C of GAFrom Albany, Ga. to Jacksonville, Fl. via the ACLCENTRAL OF GEORGIA RAILWAY Daily#108 Southbound #107 NorthboundFrom Atlanta, Ga. to Savannah, Ga via the Cof GAData for the Queen & Crescentis from the April, 1947 SRR timetableCincinnati was known as the Queen CityNew Orleans was known as the Crescent CityTHE QUEEN & CRESCENT Daily Trains

#1, 3 Southbound, Trains #2, 4 NorthboundFrom Cincinnati, Oh. to Meridian, Ms. via the SRRFrom Meridian, Ms. to Shreveport, La. via the ICRRFrom Shreveport, La. to New Orleans, La. via the SRRTHE "CRESCENT LIMITEDThe "Crescent Limited" an all Pullman, extra fare train from New York to New Orleans was begun on April 26,1925. Pulled by the Ps4 Pacific No 1372, which was painted standard black but specially lettered for the "CrescentLimited"(photo in "Steel Steam and Limited’s" page 162). The President of the Southern, Fairfax Harrison, orderedthe all Ps4's painted green, after returning from a vacation in England in 1925. The remainder of the Ps4's weredelivered from the manufacturer in green.In 1929 the Pullman company delivered the two-color green cars, before this the Pullmans were the standard"Pullman Green". The exteriors of the cars are painted in two shades of green. The sides of the cars up to thewindow sills and the panels above the windows are painted Virginia Green, the shade which Southern Railwaypassenger locomotives are painted. The panels between the windows are in a lighter shade. All the cars are lettered"Crescent Limited" in gold leaf in the upper panels.Each train includes one club car; one 8-section, 2 compartment, 1-drawing room sleeping car; one 14-section car;four 10-section, 2-drawing room cars; (2) one 3-compartment, 2-drawing room observation car. Southern Railwaypostal car is handled between Washington and Atlanta and dining car between Monroe and Atlanta, making themaximum consist ten cars between Monroe and Atlanta. (3) The Southern Railway cars are painted just as thePullman cars with the exception that the word "Southern" is painted at the ends of the upper panels in place of theword "Pullman."This train operated as such till 1934 when the name was dropped. The train was renamed 37 & 38 and operated withcoaches till 1938. The Southern renamed the train "Crescent" at this time and operated it till 1979. At this time itwas transferred to AMTRAK.

THE QUEEN & CRESCENT LIMITEDSThe "Queen & Crescent Limited", an all Pullman, extra fare train from Cincinnati to New Orleans, wasbegun on May 1, 1926. This train was similar to the "Crescent Limited" except routing.System Divisions and LinesThis information from the January 1946 timetableEASTERN SYSTEMCharleston DivisionCharleston and ColumbiaCharleston, Branchville and AugustaKingville, Rock Hill and MarionCharlotte DivisionCharlotte and AtlantaToccoa and Elberton--Lula and AthensColumbia DivisionColumbia, Savannah and JacksonvilleColumbia and SpartanburgLockhart Junction and LockhartColumbia and GreenvilleDanville DivisionMonroe and SpencerGreensboro and Goldsboro

Richmond DivisionRichmond and DanvilleNorfolk and DanvilleWashington DivisionWashington and MonroeWinston-Salem DivisionGreensboro and Winston-SalemWinston-Salem and CharlotteWinston-Salem and North WilkesboroCharlotte and StatesvilleCENTRAL SYSTEMAppalachia DivisionBulls Gap and RogersvilleAsheville DivisionAsheville and SpartanburgSalisbury and AshevilleAsheville and MurphyAtlanta DivisionAtlanta and AustellAtlanta, Austell and Chattanooga

Atlanta and MaconAtlanta, Macon and BrunswickAtlanta and Columbia.WilliamsonWilliamson and Fort ValleyCochran and HawkinsvilleRome and AttallaKnoxville DivisionAsheville, Knoxville and OakdaleKnoxville, Clinton and FondeCorryton and Cumberland GapKnoxville & Augusta DivisionKnoxville and MaryvilleMemphis DivisionChattanooga and MemphisSheffield and FlorenceWESTERN SYSTEMBirmingham DivisionAtlanta and BirminghamBirmingham and Columbus, Ms.Sheffield, Paris and Birmingham

Louisville DivisionLouisville and DanvilleMobile DivisionBirmingham, Wilton, Selma and MobileRome, Anniston, Selma and YorkSelma, Marion Junction and AkronSt. Louis DivisionLouisville and St. LouisSOUTHERN RAILWAY SYSTEM LINESAlabama Great Southern RailroadChattanooga and MeridianBaltimore Steam Packet CompanyBaltimore and Norfolk ServiceBlue Ridge RailwayCarolina & Northwestern RailwayCincinnati, New Orleans & Texas PacificCincinnati and ChattanoogaDanville & Western RailwayGeorgia Southern & Florida RailwayMacon and JacksonvilleValdosta and Palatka

Louisville & New Corydon RailroadNew Orleans & Northeastern RailroadMeridian and New OrleansTallulah Falls RailwayYazoo & Mississippi Valley RailroadSubsidiary CompaniesOperating Railroads and TerminalsClass IThe Alabama Great Southern Railroad CompanyCentral of Georgia Railroad CompanyThe Cincinnati, New Orleans and Texas Pacific Railway CompanyClass IIGeorgia Southern and Florida Railway CompanyNorfolk Southern Railway CompanyClass IIIAtlantic and East Carolina Railway CompanyBirmingham Terminal CompanyCamp Lejeune Railroad CompanyChattanooga Station CompanyThe Georgia Northern Railway CompanyInterstate Railroad CompanyLive Oak, Perry and South Georgia Company Railway CompanyLouisiana Southern Railway CompanyNew Orleans Terminal CompanySt. Johns River Terminal CompanyState University Railroad Company (54%)Tennessee, Alabama & Georgia Railway CompanyTennessee Railway CompanyOther Companies owned or controlled by the SRRAirforce Pipeline, Inc.Arrowood-Southern CompanyArrowood Southern Executive Park, Inc.The Atlanta and Charlotte Air Line Railway CompanyAtlanta Terminal CompanyBlue Ridge Railway CompanyCharlotte-Southern CorporationChattanooga Terminal Railway Company

Citico Realty CompanyDanville and Western Railway Atlantic and North CarolinaDurham and South Carolina Railroad CompanyElberton Southern Railway CompanyThe Georgia Midland RailwayHigh Point, Randleman, Asheboro and Southern Railroad Company (86%)Lenoir Car WorksMacon Terminal CompanyMemphis and Charleston Railway CompanyMobile and Birmingham Railroad Company (78%)The National Investment CompanyNorfolk Southern Industrial Development Corp.The North Carolina Midland Railroad Company (97%)Ocean Steamship Company of SavannahSouthern Rail Terminals, Inc.Southern Rail Terminals of Alabama, Inc.Southern Railway-Carolina DivisionSouthern Region Coal Transport, IncSouthern Region Distribution Services, Inc.Southern Region Industrial Realty, Inc.Southern Region Investment CompanySouthern Region Materials Supply, Inc.Southern Region Motor Transport, Inc.South Western Rail Road Company (98%)Terminal Pr

It appeared that Southern began adding these in late 1970s-early 1980s time frame. Warren Calloway SOUTHERN CABOOSES Let's take a stab at the Southern steel caboose. In 1941 and '42 the Southern built a number of steel, bay-window cabooses at the Spartanburg shops from old stock cars and